Comedy and Everything Else

[Matt Mira]

I love that you all are enjoying the Podcast. We were all floored by Jimmy's letter when he read it. We even took a break right after to ride the high. And for anyone wondering, we managed to save Jimmy's computer from the margarita.

[HeadEgg]

there was a lot of foreshadowing with all that talk of making margaritas throughout the whole show...nice touch!

[JimmyJimmy]

Thanks for all the positive feedback about the letter to my friend. He has yet to respond.

[JimmyJimmy]

My knee jerk is to defend my using the term faggot on comedic grounds, but I could be wrong. I thought everyone used that term, like pussy or queer-mo.

If I can't use faggot comedically today, where does it end? How long till they say it is wrong to call someone a "cocksucker"?

I think this whole thing may be gay.

[Itslikeimsayin]

Whoever objected is sentenced to watching Louis CK's "Chewed Up" on Showtime, Saturday October 4. I'm betting that will clear up Jimmy's intended usage of the word.

[BFH]

Just like y'all on the show can admittedly "go on and on" about the topic of parents who spank or hit their children, I could go on for pages and pages on the topic of identity politics and hate language, even as it pertains to use in humor. But that's another post for another thread for another time. In order not to derail this thread, which exists to celebrate a couple of my favorite comedians and one of my favorite podcasts, I'll just say I recognize there's a disagreement. I just didn't want that aspect of the letter to remain unacknowledged as the rest of it is being celebrated.

[dan telfer]

I encourage anyone offended by the faggot remark to download the Jimmy Carr episode of The Sound of Young America. Jimmy C. has some interesting ideas about how valuable it is to be politically correct, but that for comedy to work comedians should get a free pass. He outlines some obvious exceptions, and it's interesting to hear him talk about it as he's thought a lot about the subject and does a lot of top-notch insult humor.

As someone with a lot of gay friends and as someone who's been called a faggot more times than he can count, I get that it's a powerful word. But let's not go out of our way to be offended when a comedian says it in a goofy context.

[nathansmart]

Jesse really puts the screws to him in that episode...

[MeatLoafX]

I think everyone has passed over the very important question raised in this week's episide:

If you can't get pregnant from "do[ing] it in the butt", then how do you explain Sean Hannity?

[Hated Milk Machine]

Just like y'all on the show can admittedly "go on and on" about the topic of parents who spank or hit their children, I could go on for pages and pages on the topic of identity politics and hate language, even as it pertains to use in humor. But that's another post for another thread for another time. In order not to derail this thread, which exists to celebrate a couple of my favorite comedians and one of my favorite podcasts, I'll just say I recognize there's a disagreement. I just didn't want that aspect of the letter to remain unacknowledged as the rest of it is being celebrated.

Can I just say that I really dislike the terms "identity politics" and "hate language," because they are lame. Can you do me a favor and not use them?

[BFH]

Can I just say that I really dislike the terms "identity politics" and "hate language," because they are lame. Can you do me a favor and not use them?

No.

And I think you missed the part where I talked about not derailing the thread. (Maybe anyone still interested could discuss it HERE?)

Clearly, we've moved onto Sean Hannity.
And rectal birthing.

[Hated Milk Machine]

No.

And I think you missed the part where I talked about not derailing the thread. (Maybe anyone still interested could discuss it HERE?)

Clearly, we've moved onto Sean Hannity.
And rectal birthing.

How is it "derailing" when its discussing something that was brought up on the show?

I was trying to make the point that telling other people what phrases they can or can't use is bullshit. And I was making a side-point that phrases like "hate language" are 100x creepier and orwellian to me than "faggot" is.

[James Morris]

How is it "derailing" when its discussing something that was brought up on the show?

I was trying to make the point that telling other people what phrases they can or can't use is bullshit. And I was making a side-point that phrases like "hate language" are 100x creepier and orwellian to me than "faggot" is.

So, you're saying he's a fagcist?

[brewcaster]

I heard God Hates Fags.

Just something I heard. Not saying he does. Or that he exists, or can actually hate anyone... just saying.

I have a hard time not veering into traffic on my bike when listening to this podcast.

(because of the laughter, duh.)

Thank you so much for making it and sharing it.

[ericluxury]

Someone give Todd Glass this article from slate.com, he will be gleeful. Its the social science argument against hitting kids. Not only that hitting your kids isn't good for them, but that its ineffective and parents who use it are predisposed to selective memory of it working.
http://www.slate.com/id/2200450/

[Keith Whitener]

I started a thread for all the talk about hate language and identity politics.
http://aspecialthing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1126

[scamboogah]

Shut up you guy that possesses female qualities, which aren't necessarily bad, but in a particularly macho subculture could be taken to be of a lesser quality than others in your peer group.

Just doesn't have the same ring to it...

[Keith Whitener]

Yeah, but why do you need to say it in the first place?

Also, I agree with the letter's being excellent and would love to see it posted here so that i may share it with others.

I started a thread so we can discuss it elsewhere:
http://aspecialthing.com/forum/showt...6308#post16308

[ericluxury]

I am glad you guys registered your opinion. Most likely Jimmy Dore and most other people will continue to say faggot occasionally. Choose to be offended if you want.

[JimmyJimmy]

what do you make of this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7I1w...ture=rec-fresh