kyle cease is a real crease, f*ck that guy
kyle cease is a real crease, f*ck that guy
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Can someone check up on all the housing compounds in LA because it looks like Father Cease has built himself a pretty nice cult. Look for the blank stares in his followers eyes, they'll damn you under their breath but feign an entire friendship if they think it can further their careers. Hear them cry out to their one true lord...success...success...SUCCESS!
Does anyone else want to punch ASR in the face now?Originally Posted by ASR
Joking aside: That is insane. A small throwaway comment on the internet turns into threats regarding booking and a lecture about the business of things? How about giving them a lecture about general civility? They've said more than enough to earn an equal response. I should be careful though, right? I could launch into a rant regarding all sorts of insane things that were said in that but apparently I need to think twice about posting my opinion on the internet regarding a comedian across the country. Otherwise, I might not get a random guest spot in Irvine or 3 minutes of time at the Ice House in Pasadena. And if I can't work there, where else is there?! Where else can I go?! Kyle Cease is the Keymaster and the Gatekeeper! During the rectification of the Vuldrini, Cease came as a large and moving Torg! Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants, they chose a new form for him: that of a giant Slor!
The cult of personality expressed in that exchange is mind boggling because unlike comics who have rightly earned that cult of personality (Bill Hicks is a great example), a lot of what they are talking about is basically the fact that they like having Kyle pander to them. And anyone else who doesn't buy into that must be some sort of two face whore who isn't willing to play the game.
Long story short, it really read like someone who thought the Secret was crap being assaulted by a bunch of people who think that it works or a bunch of people trying to convince another guy to buy a Snuggie even though he is perfectly comfortable trying to hand knit his own blanket. Or something like that...
I did learn one important lesson from looking at Kevin Cease's webpage (kevincease.com/): its hard to laugh while barfing. He deserves a Webby for "Trying Too Hard." Or "Trying Way, WAY Too Fucking Hard."
(I guess there goes my two minutes at the Des Moines Chuckle Hut)
the only thing longer then travons postings are his penis and premises
I was a little disappointed in that conversation, Alec. You had a valid argument to a definite statement, and you backed down way too quickly.
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Imagine this is really clever and really funny.
http://stayathomedadcast.tumblr.com
Believe me, I feel exactly the same way. I regret not plowing forward. In my defense, I felt like there was no way I was going to convince Kevin or his entourage of his brother's boot campers to see things the way I did. It was a losing battle and I decided it wasn't even worth the fight... and then I went on to keep fighting for a while longer, I guess.
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Last edited by Chase Roper; December 20, 2009 at 2:37 PM.
Imagine this is really clever and really funny.
http://stayathomedadcast.tumblr.com
I got the impression watching the bootcamp commercial that Kyle has been thoroughly influenced by David Cross' "gay voice" bit. Especially when he says things like "be fucking amazing."
Oh man I wish I had been part of that thread when it happened, Alec, there were so many perfect opportunities to pop in and say "Who the fuck is Kyle Cease?"
And if I had done it would have been completely sincere too because I have no idea who he is and the line-up of people jumping at the chance to pile on you and kiss his brother's ass was pathetic.
Alec, I think most people in that Facebook thread were doing a bad job of giving you some good advice.
Let's ignore for a second the content of Kyle's quote. What is the point of your initial response? It's not a joke or an argument or even much of a thought.
Instead, it just adds to the "fuck you, faggot" tone of the Internet. Which sucks. If you do become a professional comedian, you are going to have a bunch of people saying really shitty, spiteful things about you on the Internet. And it sucks to read them. So why would you perpetuate that tone now?
I did apologize for the precise comment I made and said I should have worded it differently. Really, though, I had no idea that Kyle Cease or his brother would actually end up reading it... and so I didn't stop to think about wording it any nicer. Basically my thoughts were "that is a dumb thing for someone to say, let alone believe." Unfortunately, I ended just articulating that I wanted to punch Kyle Cease.
The things they were saying about respecting other comedians and having to deal with things like opening for awful comedians... I already knew all that, and I agree with. It's common sense. So yes, they had some good advice, I suppose. I don't fault anybody involved in the argument because they all actually seemed like decent people who were simply defending Kyle Cease. I recognized that early on and chose not to attack anybody else.
But you're right, I don't mean to perpetuate the tone of negativity, and as soon as the real people I attacked got involved, I backed out of my "I want to punch him" comment and tried shifting to a respectable form of argument. Which Kevin ignored, but Kyle at least seemed to take into account for his response.
Decent people? Boy, when you back down, you back down.
The brother came off like a maniacal power broker wielding his magic wand of opportunity, and the rest came off like suck-ups who wanted to make sure they had clear access to the teat. My first impression reading that thread was the old Twilight Zone episode where little Billy Mumy would "wish you into the cornfield" unless you kissed his ass...so people kissed his ass.
(I thought the funniest line was the brother saying he had had enough arguing and was heading out to get drunk. Based on his posts I thought he was already hammered.)
I think Kyle Cease is entertaining - not among my favorites but I'd see him if he blew through town. Can't comment on the Boot Camp since I haven't attended it but I've seen and read about enough of the Tony Robbins-like empowerment seminars over the years to know that if you're the type of person who has to go through this type of experience to have your self-esteem reinforced, then it's probably money well spent for you.
"You just burned the Kyle Cease bridge."
OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
(whoooooooo caaaaaaaaares)
I was talking about the other random people who chimed in occasionally.
Fuck it guys, let's just go get drunk.
Was it really so incorrect to say you wanted to punch him in the face? I barely know the guy and I wouldn't mind punching him in the face. Sure this would be in a theoretical situation where he wouldn't retaliate/know who did it, but its a fun exercise in futility. Much like Kyle's comedy bootcamp.
But unwarranted aggression is what makes this world go 'round!
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