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    Old people tell me how great Fibber Mcgee and Molly was*, but it just sounds like shit falling out of a closet to me!

    *Caveat: no old person has ever told me this.



  2. #1162

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    Now that's "a warning or caution" I can get behind.

    EDIT: I love it when people come clean on their old people stories



  3. #1163

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathansmart View Post
    But, there are so many games from the SNES era that I can always go back to and have fun. That's why I hold onto that system so much.
    Mario RPG alone makes keeping a SNES around a good idea. Not to mention a ton of other games.



  4. #1164

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    One of the best RPGs of all time - Nintendo needs to pull a Mega Man 9 and put out Super Mario RPG 2: The Secret of the True Sequel



  5. #1165

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    Super Mario RPG 2: The Search for More Money?



  6. #1166

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    You guys are so cute with your nostalgia for SNES video games. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go drive a nitro charged taxi into a bunch of prostitutes.



  7. #1167

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    Super Mario rpg is on wiiware so throw away your old junky console you nerds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berliner View Post
    You guys are so cute with your nostalgia for SNES video games. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go drive a nitro charged taxi into a bunch of prostitutes.
    That was a pretty addictive video game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umlaut View Post
    That was a pretty addictive video game.
    Video game?



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    ugh, videogame arguments

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    Quote Originally Posted by Having Fun! View Post
    ugh, videogame arguments

    Anyone up for a game of 20 Questions?

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    Is it an arcade?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Blacklist View Post
    Is it an arcade?
    No

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    Is it a place where you would buy food?



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    No
    Garrett Gonzalez Morris (born February 1, 1937) is an American comedian and actor from New Orleans, Louisiana. He was part of the original cast of the sketch comedy program Saturday Night Live, appearing from 1975 to 1980

    For the British flautist, see Gareth Morris.



  16. #1176

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    Is it a building?



  17. #1177

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    Quote Originally Posted by isoS View Post
    I might argue the point that games get better as generations go on -- the Sega Saturn/PS1 generation took a step backwards in my mind as developers tried to port everything to 3D without always knowing how.
    Of course, there's always an adjustment period as developers adapt to new technologies.

    Although one could perhaps argue that games do not improve with generations (as graphic quality increases, developers spend less time on more important game elements), I think it's very difficult to argue that the potential for games increases.

    Processing power is for more than just pretty looking dirt. Voice commands in Endwar, enemy AI in halo, destructibility in Bad Company and Red Guerrilla, allies in Rainbow Six, and possibilities in Hitman. Although probably not the best examples of computing power at work, these things open up so many new avenues and development options, it's ridiculous.
    And advances in technology and graphics don't necessarily correlate to playability and controls. Older games might be simpler in some ways, but they can also be more fun and have way more re-playability.
    They don't, you're right. Anyone who has played Vampire's Rain can attest to that (although imagine how amazing it would be twenty years ago). But today these are design decisions rather technological limitations, though. You still have games like World Of Goo, Braid, even Little Big Planet which are decidedly simply in concept, but enabled by technology to go far beyond the ability of older games.

    That's why you see things like that MegaMan project, and the popularity of classic titles on the Wii Virtual Console and the XBox Marketplace or whatever they call it.
    Don't under estimate nostalgia factor and cheapness. No one is buying a 2d Super Mario for $60.
    I have to assume that graphics will eventually plateau, and then we'll be left with the question of what makes a game fun, something the best games figured out almost 30 years ago.
    But games aren't just fun anymore, they're experiences. Not that they aren't fun, but they're much more than that now. This is good for some people, bad for others. The Wii has been so successful because it's fluff. When there's no depth, anyone can jump in and enjoy. It takes some investment to have fun with game comparitivly more hardcore than "Mime Tennis a friend!".

    It reminds me of Lost, Battlestar Gallactica, or to a lesser extent a show like madmen Madmen. They aren't just fluff. You can't come into the middle of an episode of Lost and enjoy it like you can with an episode of House. There's an investment into characters and plot that makes the show more of an experience than just 'fun'. That's why you cry at the last episode of BSG and not CSI. That's what games can do now. Even if you aren't crying at the end of Bioshock of Deadspace, they're more than just a fun rump.

    And yes, I'm generalizing and comparing two things that aren't wholly similar. But you compare games to movies, so I think it's okay. And not that there's anything wrong with dumb fun. Hell, I'm seeing Transformers tonight.

    There's also something to be said for technological limitations leading to more creative solutions and more interesting games
    They had a discussion similar to this quote on Battleship Pretension talking about limitations leading to creativity that I think I agree with entirely. I wont recount the whole conversation, but it generally boils down to "Although a limitation can lead to creativity, it can also lead to shit." Although subtlety is sorely lacking in all forms of entertainment, a movie like the Host, for example, wouldn't have been nearly as poignant if the monster was a big anamotronic doll.

    Moderation is key, but it's better to chose not to do something than to not be able to.

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    About the ps1/snes thing, ps1 had a wopping 1239 games. Most of them were shit, no doubt, but people seemed to forget that although Megaman and Zelda were awesome, most snes games were bad. Generally, if you can't remember it, it was probably bad.

    I would also venture to say that, played today, a bad SNES is worse than a bad PS2/PS1 game.

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    I always feel like apologizing for long, serious posts about trivial things. Sorry >_>



  18. #1178

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    It's SNES.
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    some old games are fun because when you play them they are fun. I have played games that I did not play as a child and enjoyed them. New games are good too. Who gives a shit.

    and no, it is NOT a building
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    Garrett Gonzalez Morris (born February 1, 1937) is an American comedian and actor from New Orleans, Louisiana. He was part of the original cast of the sketch comedy program Saturday Night Live, appearing from 1975 to 1980

    For the British flautist, see Gareth Morris.



  20. #1180

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    I have a friend who pronounces NES as "Ness" and SNES as "Ess Ness".

    It infuriates me.



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